1 00:00:23,140 --> 00:00:19,750 hey everyone my name is sapphire sandal 2 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:23,150 oh I am so excited to be here thank you 3 00:00:28,930 --> 00:00:25,730 again Ryan and Jason for having me be a 4 00:00:32,470 --> 00:00:28,940 part of this virtual Expo this is really 5 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:32,480 cool and yeah I'm really excited to see 6 00:00:37,710 --> 00:00:35,330 everyone else's talks and to interact 7 00:00:40,690 --> 00:00:37,720 with all of you so welcome to my talk 8 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:40,700 entitled how to have a supernatural 9 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:44,750 experience so I would like to ask all of 10 00:00:51,220 --> 00:00:47,150 you in the chat first how many of you 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:51,230 here have had an experience that you 12 00:01:03,490 --> 00:00:53,570 would consider paranormal or 13 00:01:06,660 --> 00:01:03,500 supernatural in nature cool 14 00:01:10,180 --> 00:01:06,670 this is pre-recorded so I have no idea 15 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:10,190 writing in the chat or not and now I 16 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:14,090 want to ask how many of you in here have 17 00:01:24,010 --> 00:01:17,090 never had an experience like that but 18 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:24,020 I've always wanted one mmm this is me 19 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:26,570 pretending to read chat cool awesome 20 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:30,080 well hopefully people have responded to 21 00:01:34,210 --> 00:01:32,510 or hopefully most of you have responded 22 00:01:37,210 --> 00:01:34,220 to that second question because that's 23 00:01:39,610 --> 00:01:37,220 what this talk is gonna be about so I am 24 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:39,620 a storyteller I tell stories for a 25 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:42,320 living via podcasts and YouTube videos 26 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:46,130 and you know they're mostly paranormal 27 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:49,970 or supernatural in nature and because I 28 00:01:56,470 --> 00:01:52,840 share so many other people's stories 29 00:01:58,810 --> 00:01:56,480 people always ask me water well you must 30 00:02:02,680 --> 00:01:58,820 have some crazy personal stories to 31 00:02:06,130 --> 00:02:02,690 write and for the longest time my answer 32 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:06,140 to that has always been no mainly 33 00:02:13,119 --> 00:02:09,470 because you know I've heard everything 34 00:02:14,650 --> 00:02:13,129 and to me I've never had anything on 35 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:14,660 that level you know I've never seen an 36 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:18,050 apparition I've never felt you know any 37 00:02:22,809 --> 00:02:20,480 I've never felt or seen anything and so 38 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:22,819 I was always under you know the 39 00:02:27,429 --> 00:02:26,209 impression that I just was not the type 40 00:02:28,770 --> 00:02:27,439 of person to have these types of 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:28,780 experiences 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:33,850 but the more that I learn about what is 43 00:02:40,230 --> 00:02:36,970 paranormal and what is supernatural and 44 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:40,240 what the spirit realm really is I came 45 00:02:45,690 --> 00:02:42,160 to the realization that I actually have 46 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:45,700 had a couple experiences you know 47 00:02:50,010 --> 00:02:47,140 they're nothing like these stories that 48 00:02:53,310 --> 00:02:50,020 I share on my shows but I have had them 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:53,320 and once I changed my perception of what 50 00:02:58,350 --> 00:02:56,770 is supernatural then I started to see it 51 00:03:02,310 --> 00:02:58,360 in my everyday life 52 00:03:05,250 --> 00:03:02,320 and my life has changed also like sounds 53 00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:05,260 super dramatic or anything you know so I 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:07,209 I want to tell you that you don't need 55 00:03:12,510 --> 00:03:09,970 to seek out haunted places to experience 56 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:12,520 something extraordinary because it's 57 00:03:18,780 --> 00:03:16,720 already happening within all of us so in 58 00:03:21,540 --> 00:03:18,790 this talk I'm going to explain what I 59 00:03:24,449 --> 00:03:21,550 mean by that and show you how I've been 60 00:03:27,350 --> 00:03:24,459 able to experience the supernatural and 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:27,360 also offer you tips on how you can do 62 00:03:33,330 --> 00:03:30,570 and if you've already had supernatural 63 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:33,340 experiences well congratulations it's 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:35,350 great for you but maybe this talk can 65 00:03:40,259 --> 00:03:38,290 help you have even more so before we 66 00:03:42,539 --> 00:03:40,269 move on any further obviously probably 67 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:42,549 should talk about what a supernatural 68 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:44,860 experience is what does that mean right 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:47,920 it is an event that cannot be explained 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:51,370 by nature or science and is assumed to 71 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:54,370 come from beyond or to originate from 72 00:03:59,220 --> 00:03:56,830 otherworldly forces I pulled that off 73 00:04:01,170 --> 00:03:59,230 somewhere on the internet so simply put 74 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:01,180 it just means it is something that 75 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:04,840 cannot be explained no matter how hard 76 00:04:11,550 --> 00:04:08,560 we try or like definitively explained we 77 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:11,560 live in a time of smartphones and Google 78 00:04:16,770 --> 00:04:14,950 and a lot of what we used to think as 79 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:16,780 paranormal and supernatural has been 80 00:04:22,050 --> 00:04:19,570 debunked through science but there are 81 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:22,060 still so many things that we do not know 82 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:23,710 for sure you know it's crazy when we 83 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:26,710 think about everything that we do know 84 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:30,820 compared to what people knew only a 85 00:04:35,850 --> 00:04:33,310 hundred or so years ago you know it 86 00:04:38,370 --> 00:04:35,860 we're learning so much every century and 87 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:38,380 so you know what we think to be true 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:41,650 today our world is not going to be the 89 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:42,370 same 90 00:04:48,689 --> 00:04:45,970 in a hundred years and so speaking of 91 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:48,699 the future predicting the future 92 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:50,740 accurately would be considered a 93 00:04:57,090 --> 00:04:54,400 supernatural event right and do any of 94 00:05:00,659 --> 00:04:57,100 you in the chat believe that people can 95 00:05:02,780 --> 00:05:00,669 predict the future you just say like yes 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:02,790 or no in the chat I'm curious 97 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:07,210 again no idea what you're typing but so 98 00:05:13,650 --> 00:05:10,540 I don't claim to be a psychic or a 99 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:13,660 medium in any way but there have been a 100 00:05:21,030 --> 00:05:16,990 few occasions where I have accurately 101 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:21,040 predicted the future in 2012 I was 102 00:05:26,580 --> 00:05:23,889 working at finem which is this fashion 103 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:26,590 school in downtown LA and I was a 104 00:05:32,190 --> 00:05:29,830 graphic designer and video editor and I 105 00:05:35,370 --> 00:05:32,200 didn't hate the job but it wasn't what I 106 00:05:37,290 --> 00:05:35,380 really wanted to do so that was to work 107 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:37,300 in the animation industry that's what I 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:40,060 went to school for so I sort of felt 109 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:42,490 like I had given up on the idea of ever 110 00:05:46,110 --> 00:05:45,190 working in an actual studio and I 111 00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:46,120 figured it was something that would 112 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:49,030 happen years later not for someone who'd 113 00:05:53,340 --> 00:05:50,860 only been out of film school for a 114 00:05:54,930 --> 00:05:53,350 couple of years and that was sort of 115 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:54,940 like my mindset I was just like okay 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:57,250 it's not gonna happen and then my friend 117 00:06:01,770 --> 00:05:59,410 who knew that I wanted to work in 118 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:01,780 animation he connected me with this guy 119 00:06:05,700 --> 00:06:03,849 that he knew who was also trying to get 120 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:05,710 into that industry and I remember at 121 00:06:10,950 --> 00:06:09,070 first I really resisted this meeting I'm 122 00:06:12,659 --> 00:06:10,960 a super introvert so like I don't want 123 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:12,669 to meet new people unless I really have 124 00:06:19,020 --> 00:06:16,270 to and so but my friend he just kept 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:19,030 pushing me to meet with this guy I was 126 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:20,410 like what are we gonna talk about like 127 00:06:26,670 --> 00:06:23,710 how we both are not in our dream career 128 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:26,680 but I caved and I ended up meeting with 129 00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:30,330 him and we ended up talking for like 130 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:33,460 five or more hours like we even had to 131 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:36,160 relocate from the bar that we were at to 132 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:37,990 go to a 24-hour diner like that's how 133 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:40,570 long we were talking and in our 134 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:42,310 conversation he told me about these 135 00:06:47,790 --> 00:06:46,240 young artists who were our age and they 136 00:06:50,219 --> 00:06:47,800 were working as visual development 137 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:50,229 artist and storyboard artists at Disney 138 00:06:55,559 --> 00:06:53,680 and I remember thinking wow so it is 139 00:06:58,409 --> 00:06:55,569 possible for some 140 00:07:02,790 --> 00:06:58,419 my age to have a dream job and I just a 141 00:07:05,189 --> 00:07:02,800 member my mindset just totally changed 142 00:07:08,010 --> 00:07:05,199 in that moment he had also told me about 143 00:07:10,769 --> 00:07:08,020 these drawing workshops and so I signed 144 00:07:12,929 --> 00:07:10,779 up for them and at the time I was also 145 00:07:14,459 --> 00:07:12,939 learning about vision boards honestly 146 00:07:16,559 --> 00:07:14,469 every time I've made a vision board like 147 00:07:18,239 --> 00:07:16,569 my my life has changed feel free to 148 00:07:20,609 --> 00:07:18,249 email me after this and we can talk 149 00:07:24,089 --> 00:07:20,619 about vision boards after I finished my 150 00:07:26,699 --> 00:07:24,099 board and I looked at my calendar and I 151 00:07:29,309 --> 00:07:26,709 was like okay I need to make a deadline 152 00:07:32,670 --> 00:07:29,319 for myself and I was just looking at the 153 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:32,680 dates and I remember I zeroed in on this 154 00:07:41,219 --> 00:07:38,020 one day April 22nd 2013 and it was only 155 00:07:43,679 --> 00:07:41,229 a couple months away at the time and I 156 00:07:46,260 --> 00:07:43,689 remember thinking that's pretty bold of 157 00:07:50,309 --> 00:07:46,270 me to think that it'll happen this soon 158 00:07:52,679 --> 00:07:50,319 like within a couple of months but I was 159 00:07:55,799 --> 00:07:52,689 like no no no this is the day that I'm 160 00:07:58,529 --> 00:07:55,809 gonna finally have my dream job so I 161 00:08:01,589 --> 00:07:58,539 circled it and I wrote you're gonna have 162 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:01,599 a new job I hit bad and so a couple 163 00:08:07,799 --> 00:08:05,529 months passed by and then I was hired on 164 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:07,809 my very first TV series it was a new 165 00:08:17,249 --> 00:08:11,050 Adult Swim show and my start date was 166 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:17,259 April 22nd 2013 so I know some of you 167 00:08:20,489 --> 00:08:18,430 are probably thinking okay that's not 168 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:20,499 predicting the future you just happen to 169 00:08:25,019 --> 00:08:22,089 pick the right date it was just a 170 00:08:27,389 --> 00:08:25,029 coincidence right but a lot of things 171 00:08:30,239 --> 00:08:27,399 had to happen in order for me to pick 172 00:08:32,309 --> 00:08:30,249 that date and for that exact date to be 173 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:32,319 the right one right like my friends 174 00:08:37,290 --> 00:08:35,110 connected me with a guy us meeting up me 175 00:08:39,629 --> 00:08:37,300 having this inspiration me picking that 176 00:08:41,969 --> 00:08:39,639 date and also the studio picking that 177 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:41,979 day to be the start date 178 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:45,990 you know was it just a random date maybe 179 00:08:52,379 --> 00:08:50,889 but what is random like what is what 180 00:08:54,750 --> 00:08:52,389 does that mean when something's random 181 00:08:57,569 --> 00:08:54,760 right when people think of random you 182 00:08:59,519 --> 00:08:57,579 usually think that it is lacking and 183 00:09:01,530 --> 00:08:59,529 meaning like it has there is no 184 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:01,540 significance but there's this quote from 185 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:03,220 there's this quote that I really like 186 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:05,170 from this philosopher named Baruch 187 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:07,769 Spinoza no idea if I said that right 188 00:09:14,310 --> 00:09:11,410 they said nothing in nature is random a 189 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:14,320 thing appears random only through the 190 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:18,730 incompleteness of our knowledge I really 191 00:09:22,139 --> 00:09:20,290 like that because it's sort of looking 192 00:09:25,860 --> 00:09:22,149 at random in a totally different way 193 00:09:28,439 --> 00:09:25,870 it's not lacking and meaning we just 194 00:09:31,199 --> 00:09:28,449 don't know what the meaning is yet so 195 00:09:32,699 --> 00:09:31,209 when I think back on that date you know 196 00:09:34,829 --> 00:09:32,709 and I try to think like okay why did I 197 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:34,839 pick that like what was going on in my 198 00:09:41,850 --> 00:09:37,570 mind at the time to make me pick that 199 00:09:46,199 --> 00:09:41,860 exact date and for me the answer is my 200 00:09:48,629 --> 00:09:46,209 intuition my intuition is what led me to 201 00:09:53,220 --> 00:09:48,639 pick that date so I want to ask the chat 202 00:09:54,930 --> 00:09:53,230 what is intuition to you you just see 203 00:10:04,030 --> 00:09:54,940 like a couple of words I like phrases or 204 00:10:14,420 --> 00:10:10,790 so our intuition is really just our see 205 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:14,430 this is how mysterious intuition is 206 00:10:19,370 --> 00:10:16,590 because I'm even right now having a hard 207 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:19,380 time explaining it but the way that we 208 00:10:23,570 --> 00:10:21,839 refer to it changes it varies from 209 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:23,580 culture to culture and religion - 210 00:10:29,450 --> 00:10:26,130 religion right some people you know may 211 00:10:32,930 --> 00:10:29,460 call it a gut feeling or a hunch some 212 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:32,940 people call it God or the universe it's 213 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:35,240 when a thought comes into your head or 214 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:37,410 when you have a bad feeling about 215 00:10:43,579 --> 00:10:40,500 someone if you feel compelled to do or 216 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:43,589 not do something we use our intuition 217 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:46,940 every single day and we don't even fully 218 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:51,510 understand what it is and where it comes 219 00:10:56,420 --> 00:10:52,050 from 220 00:10:59,210 --> 00:10:56,430 intuition is in itself a supernatural 221 00:11:01,910 --> 00:10:59,220 phenomena because we do not fully 222 00:11:04,340 --> 00:11:01,920 understand it and so I just want to take 223 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:04,350 a moment to let that sink in because I 224 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:07,710 believe that is so beautiful that we all 225 00:11:14,450 --> 00:11:11,760 have this built-in GPS within us it 226 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:14,460 keeps us safe it guides us in the right 227 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:17,010 direction so for the rest of this talk 228 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:18,810 I'd like to share with you what my 229 00:11:26,540 --> 00:11:23,360 definition of my intuition is and to me 230 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:26,550 intuition is the spirits of our 231 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:29,250 ancestors and this is a concept that I 232 00:11:34,100 --> 00:11:31,530 learned from Lyn Pacific R who is a 233 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:34,110 Filipino shaman and she's amazing and I 234 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:36,240 just wanted to shout her out if you want 235 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:37,890 visit her website I'm gonna put it right 236 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:40,890 here basically indigenous Filipinos 237 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:44,040 believed that the spirit realm is all 238 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:46,800 around us so the spirit realm is where 239 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:50,610 our deceased relatives reside and the 240 00:11:54,829 --> 00:11:52,410 way that they communicate with us is 241 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:54,839 through our intuition and our inner 242 00:11:59,720 --> 00:11:57,330 voice so all of their knowledge and 243 00:12:02,690 --> 00:11:59,730 wisdom is literally floating around us 244 00:12:03,949 --> 00:12:02,700 at all times so when you get those 245 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:03,959 thoughts or feelings 246 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:07,770 that's your ancestors speaking to you at 247 00:12:12,590 --> 00:12:10,290 least that's like how is it and these 248 00:12:14,269 --> 00:12:12,600 signs can be very subtle so if you're 249 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:14,279 not paying attention then you 250 00:12:19,369 --> 00:12:16,980 miss them so you know if you look back 251 00:12:22,970 --> 00:12:19,379 at the story I just told my friend 252 00:12:25,489 --> 00:12:22,980 texted me around the time where I was 253 00:12:27,139 --> 00:12:25,499 sort of settling in my career I was 254 00:12:29,869 --> 00:12:27,149 thinking okay maybe I should give up I'm 255 00:12:32,389 --> 00:12:29,879 in animation for now because it doesn't 256 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:32,399 seem like it's gonna happen and you know 257 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:34,649 I really had no interest in meeting that 258 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:36,600 guy but my friend was just really 259 00:12:42,199 --> 00:12:40,050 insistent and so when I look back on 260 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:42,209 that I wonder and now with my new 261 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:44,910 understanding of what my intuition is I 262 00:12:52,699 --> 00:12:49,769 wonder you know did my ancestors have a 263 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:52,709 role in orchestrating all of that to 264 00:12:58,100 --> 00:12:55,680 happen so I have another story where I 265 00:13:02,509 --> 00:12:58,110 sort of predicted the future again but 266 00:13:05,809 --> 00:13:02,519 in a different way and to me this is a 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:05,819 much more clear intervention of the 268 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:08,730 spirits of my ancestors so it all makes 269 00:13:18,769 --> 00:13:13,860 sense after my story so in 2011 I was 270 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:18,779 hired at a startup and my friend who got 271 00:13:23,929 --> 00:13:20,639 me the job was introducing me to 272 00:13:26,329 --> 00:13:23,939 everyone in the office and we stopped at 273 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:26,339 this desk where a man was sitting with 274 00:13:30,379 --> 00:13:28,889 his back turned and my friend said this 275 00:13:35,290 --> 00:13:30,389 is Elliott you're going to be working 276 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:35,300 with him and when Elliott turned around 277 00:13:43,610 --> 00:13:39,360 this thought came to my head clear as 278 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:43,620 day this man is going to be very 279 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:47,360 important in your life and I remember 280 00:13:53,809 --> 00:13:51,540 just standing there kind of like why did 281 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:53,819 that thought just come to my head you 282 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:55,410 know like I literally just met this 283 00:14:03,730 --> 00:13:59,040 person and so seven years after that 284 00:14:08,810 --> 00:14:03,740 moment I married Elliott 285 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:08,820 yeah so at the time that that happened 286 00:14:13,730 --> 00:14:10,860 you know I didn't think oh wow my 287 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:13,740 ancestors are talking to me no I just I 288 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:16,020 just felt like I was having this really 289 00:14:21,889 --> 00:14:19,529 random clear thought and it was so weird 290 00:14:24,139 --> 00:14:21,899 that I remembered it all these years and 291 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:24,149 at the time I just didn't know what to 292 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:25,649 call it 293 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:27,690 and again there's that word random right 294 00:14:33,980 --> 00:14:31,380 at the time it felt very random but now 295 00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:33,990 looking back there is a meaning to it 296 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:36,899 the meaning was oh you're gonna marry 297 00:14:41,420 --> 00:14:39,570 this guy when I look at the relationship 298 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:41,430 I've had with my husband over the years 299 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:44,040 it was very up and down throughout like 300 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:47,010 most are but I always thought back to 301 00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:48,720 that moment when I met him 302 00:14:52,690 --> 00:14:49,740 you know it's sort of like this 303 00:14:56,090 --> 00:14:52,700 confirmation that hang in there 304 00:14:58,070 --> 00:14:56,100 everything is gonna work out so I want 305 00:15:00,440 --> 00:14:58,080 to take a second to have you think about 306 00:15:02,570 --> 00:15:00,450 your own lives you know have you had 307 00:15:04,940 --> 00:15:02,580 similar instances like this where 308 00:15:08,060 --> 00:15:04,950 something really random happened and 309 00:15:13,069 --> 00:15:08,070 then you didn't understand what it meant 310 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:13,079 until later or maybe is something random 311 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:15,570 excuse me my voice cracked maybe 312 00:15:20,060 --> 00:15:17,940 something random happened to you 313 00:15:22,780 --> 00:15:20,070 recently and you haven't learned the 314 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:22,790 meaning of it yet 315 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:26,250 so I want to tell one more story it's a 316 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:29,610 little bit longer so buckle in buckle in 317 00:15:34,910 --> 00:15:30,630 buckle up 318 00:15:38,329 --> 00:15:34,920 whatever um so this is a story about how 319 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:38,339 I believe I have been communicating with 320 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:42,570 my ancestors over the past year so a 321 00:15:48,650 --> 00:15:44,040 little bit of background on me 322 00:15:51,079 --> 00:15:48,660 I grew up never really caring about old 323 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:51,089 people I just always felt really 324 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:53,550 uncomfortable around them because I just 325 00:15:59,960 --> 00:15:56,730 never knew what to say I you know I was 326 00:16:01,579 --> 00:15:59,970 little and I like I have nothing in 327 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:01,589 common with these old people like that's 328 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:04,110 just how I thought as a kid I never had 329 00:16:08,810 --> 00:16:05,970 any interest in knowing about our family 330 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:08,820 history never had any interest in 331 00:16:13,819 --> 00:16:10,860 learning about Filipino history or like 332 00:16:15,990 --> 00:16:13,829 history in general like history just was 333 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:16,000 the most boring topic to me I had no 334 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:18,800 interest for it but what I was 335 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:21,440 interested in was paranormal stories and 336 00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:25,720 ghost stories and my grandpa had so many 337 00:16:34,630 --> 00:16:31,430 he has encountered witches and fairies 338 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:34,640 and Giants and classic ghosts there like 339 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:38,450 anything you name you name it he's seen 340 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:41,830 it and so when I was about like 9 or 10 341 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:44,510 my grandma and my grandpa were over for 342 00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:47,600 dinner and I the topic of those stories 343 00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:50,150 came up and so I got my tape recorder 344 00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:52,670 and then I recorded my grandpa telling 345 00:17:08,770 --> 00:16:54,830 some of his stories because I'm gonna 346 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:08,780 play a little clip for you now so these 347 00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:11,839 stories were what inspired me to create 348 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:13,790 a web series a couple years ago called 349 00:17:19,810 --> 00:17:16,250 something scary where I told ghost 350 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:19,820 stories from around the world and I was 351 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:22,610 doing it for a company I wasn't doing it 352 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:26,410 independently and after a couple years I 353 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:30,710 was just feeling super burned out to the 354 00:17:35,950 --> 00:17:33,710 point where I wasn't even sure if I like 355 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:35,960 to go stories anymore and that was a 356 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:37,970 terrible feeling you know to go from 357 00:17:44,770 --> 00:17:41,210 being obsessed with something to not 358 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:44,780 wanting anything to do with it so on the 359 00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:47,600 side I was like okay I need something to 360 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:50,630 reignite that spark that creative spark 361 00:17:56,410 --> 00:17:53,510 in me right so I was working on this 362 00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:56,420 pitch for a TV show idea on the side and 363 00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:00,320 I was researching Filipino ghosts 364 00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:02,950 because I knew that I wanted to showcase 365 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:05,840 the folklore and the urban legends of 366 00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:06,980 the Philippines because it's just 367 00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:08,720 something that we haven't really seen in 368 00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:12,560 entertainment and in this research you 369 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:14,780 know what started off is just knowing 370 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:17,950 about the ghosts and the monsters I 371 00:18:25,290 --> 00:18:21,110 ended up going down this path of 372 00:18:27,970 --> 00:18:25,300 learning about Filipino history and I 373 00:18:29,330 --> 00:18:27,980 started making these connections that I 374 00:18:35,030 --> 00:18:29,340 never had 375 00:18:37,370 --> 00:18:35,040 for I realized that my desire to learn 376 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:37,380 about the paranormal and the spiritual 377 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:41,490 world is literally in my blood so what I 378 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:42,210 mean by that 379 00:18:46,790 --> 00:18:45,090 indigenous Filipinos were animistic so 380 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:46,800 that means that they believed everything 381 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:49,230 has a spirit and that there are spirit 382 00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:53,490 realms spirit realms are parallel to our 383 00:18:59,330 --> 00:18:55,740 physical realm but they are invisible to 384 00:19:03,320 --> 00:18:59,340 most people and these stories and these 385 00:19:05,180 --> 00:19:03,330 beliefs are built into our DNA so my 386 00:19:06,020 --> 00:19:05,190 ancestor is like way way way way way way 387 00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:06,030 back 388 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:08,550 you know they had such a deep connection 389 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:11,070 with the spirit world indigenous 390 00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:15,030 Filipinos practiced magic and interacted 391 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:16,860 with the spirit world all the time and 392 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:19,110 they had rituals and it was the first 393 00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:20,370 time that I really made that connection 394 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:26,060 of my love for this type of stuff is 395 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:30,240 because of centuries and centuries of my 396 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:35,550 ancestors actually living it so after 397 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,870 learning about the horrors of 398 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:38,880 colonization that the Philippines 399 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:41,340 endured for like five hundred years 400 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:44,010 it no longer felt right for me to 401 00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:45,390 continue working for this company that 402 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:47,430 owned something scary and all of my 403 00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:50,760 ideas and my work so I was compelled to 404 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:53,820 quit my job didn't really have much of a 405 00:20:01,130 --> 00:19:58,650 plan but I had this feeling that nagging 406 00:20:04,220 --> 00:20:01,140 feeling that I needed to leave this job 407 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:04,230 so I became an independent creator and I 408 00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:06,420 created a podcast called stories with 409 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:07,980 Sapphire so that's what I work on now 410 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:11,370 and I you know I wanted to incorporate a 411 00:20:16,550 --> 00:20:14,640 lot of Filipinos stories and history so 412 00:20:17,870 --> 00:20:16,560 I would always text my mom you know 413 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:17,880 asking her how to pronounce certain 414 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,090 words and once I launched the show she 415 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:23,280 listened to the episodes every single 416 00:20:27,740 --> 00:20:25,710 week and she's like my biggest fan she 417 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:27,750 like shares the episodes with all of our 418 00:20:31,670 --> 00:20:29,910 family members and I'm sure people are 419 00:20:33,290 --> 00:20:31,680 so annoyed by it now but like she she 420 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:33,300 loves these stories too and I'm pretty 421 00:20:39,650 --> 00:20:37,110 sure I inherited that from her and she 422 00:20:42,139 --> 00:20:39,660 also introduced me to a lot of stories 423 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:42,149 in my family history that 424 00:20:48,199 --> 00:20:45,089 no she had asked me if I knew the story 425 00:20:51,349 --> 00:20:48,209 of how my great Grandpa's bones were 426 00:20:55,489 --> 00:20:51,359 recovered in World War two and I was 427 00:20:57,619 --> 00:20:55,499 like what you know like I had always 428 00:21:00,469 --> 00:20:57,629 known that my great-grandfather was 429 00:21:05,449 --> 00:21:00,479 killed in World War two but I had no 430 00:21:07,639 --> 00:21:05,459 knowledge of the surrounding details of 431 00:21:10,969 --> 00:21:07,649 that and I had never had an interest in 432 00:21:12,499 --> 00:21:10,979 knowing before but now I you know I I 433 00:21:15,289 --> 00:21:12,509 was like yeah tell me about this story 434 00:21:22,339 --> 00:21:15,299 so um I have to tell you the story 435 00:21:24,259 --> 00:21:22,349 because it's so cool and then I became 436 00:21:26,659 --> 00:21:24,269 obsessed with learning more about my 437 00:21:28,999 --> 00:21:26,669 great-grandparents and then my mom told 438 00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:29,009 me that she had my great-grandmother's 439 00:21:34,819 --> 00:21:32,969 journal you know like years ago one of 440 00:21:37,249 --> 00:21:34,829 her cousins had like typed it up and 441 00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:37,259 gave given it to all of the cousins and 442 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,179 I never had an interest in reading it 443 00:21:43,099 --> 00:21:40,799 and I was like oh my god send me that 444 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:43,109 journal please and so she literally has 445 00:21:48,169 --> 00:21:45,569 been emailing me page by page this 446 00:21:50,689 --> 00:21:48,179 journal so that I could read it okay so 447 00:21:53,619 --> 00:21:50,699 how does any of this mean that I was 448 00:21:56,599 --> 00:21:53,629 communicating with my deceased ancestors 449 00:21:59,629 --> 00:21:56,609 my journey from being an apathetic 450 00:22:04,039 --> 00:21:59,639 Filipino American to the person I am 451 00:22:07,309 --> 00:22:04,049 today was a long but organic one and I 452 00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:07,319 believe that it was orchestrated by my 453 00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:10,589 ancestors through my intuition so what 454 00:22:15,769 --> 00:22:12,629 makes me so sure that this was my 455 00:22:18,499 --> 00:22:15,779 ancestors speaking to me well a couple 456 00:22:22,069 --> 00:22:18,509 months ago I could have never imagined 457 00:22:24,889 --> 00:22:22,079 being as close to my mom as I am now we 458 00:22:27,709 --> 00:22:24,899 just did not have a communicative 459 00:22:31,159 --> 00:22:27,719 relationship you know it was just very 460 00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:31,169 tense and now we text all the time as 461 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,029 she shares my podcast with her family 462 00:22:38,869 --> 00:22:35,039 she's always trying to find people for 463 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:38,879 my show you know we bond over the 464 00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:41,609 supernatural now and I would have never 465 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:48,169 ever pictured this bringing us together 466 00:22:54,529 --> 00:22:52,799 and even a year ago I had zero interest 467 00:22:55,940 --> 00:22:54,539 in learning about the history of the 468 00:22:58,399 --> 00:22:55,950 Philippines or what my great 469 00:23:00,169 --> 00:22:58,409 my parents lives were like and I 470 00:23:03,220 --> 00:23:00,179 honestly feel like a totally different 471 00:23:06,110 --> 00:23:03,230 person now and in Filipino culture 472 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:06,120 family is everything and as a 473 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:08,610 second-generation Filipino American my 474 00:23:13,610 --> 00:23:11,070 relationship with my family has always 475 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:13,620 had some cultural and generational 476 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:15,570 tension you know that's part of the 477 00:23:19,879 --> 00:23:17,130 reason why I me and my mom never really 478 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,889 got along but I believe that the spirits 479 00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:21,840 of my ancestors were taking note of that 480 00:23:25,820 --> 00:23:23,700 they saw that I just kept getting 481 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:25,830 further and further away from my family 482 00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:28,460 history and my ancestry and so the 483 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:31,320 orchestrated this long thing to guide me 484 00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:34,049 to find the passion to learn about their 485 00:23:39,159 --> 00:23:38,159 stories and bring us all together so the 486 00:23:42,169 --> 00:23:39,169 way that I see it 487 00:23:44,029 --> 00:23:42,179 spirits are all around us and they 488 00:23:47,419 --> 00:23:44,039 communicate with us through our 489 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:47,429 intuition which we all have so when you 490 00:23:54,110 --> 00:23:50,250 pay attention to your intuition you are 491 00:23:56,539 --> 00:23:54,120 communicating with a dead you don't need 492 00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:56,549 a Ouija board or spirit box or anything 493 00:24:01,310 --> 00:23:59,010 you were doing it all the time I know 494 00:24:04,430 --> 00:24:01,320 that might seem like a super stretch to 495 00:24:06,399 --> 00:24:04,440 some of you but that's okay if that if 496 00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:06,409 that doesn't vibe with you that's fine 497 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:10,200 but I so if I if listening to our 498 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:12,210 intuition is how we communicate with the 499 00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:15,360 dead then I want to close this talk by 500 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:17,399 giving some advice on how you can 501 00:24:24,139 --> 00:24:20,610 enhance your intuition and make it speak 502 00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:24,149 to you a little bit louder so this is 503 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:27,240 your homework so these are lessons and 504 00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:29,100 tips that I have learned from all of the 505 00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:30,720 people I've spoken to over the years 506 00:24:34,460 --> 00:24:32,340 from all of the stories I've gathered 507 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:34,470 just little bits of advice from very 508 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:36,450 knowledgeable people so the first thing 509 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:39,330 I want to say is take a week to view 510 00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:41,850 your intuition as the spirit of your 511 00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:44,760 ancestors so what that means is you know 512 00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:46,760 if the thought pops into your head 513 00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:48,630 contemplate for a second on why you 514 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:51,299 thought that and you know think if maybe 515 00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:54,080 somebody might be trying to contact you 516 00:25:00,110 --> 00:24:58,110 also just notice seemingly small psychic 517 00:25:02,779 --> 00:25:00,120 moments no matter how insignificant they 518 00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:02,789 may feel or seem you know it's something 519 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:05,070 as simple as knowing the phone is about 520 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:06,840 to ring you know those little moments 521 00:25:10,670 --> 00:25:08,400 happen to us all of the time and so 522 00:25:12,610 --> 00:25:10,680 really pay attention to those and don't 523 00:25:15,049 --> 00:25:12,620 just write them off as insignificant 524 00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:15,059 anymore and so if you're going to be 525 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:17,220 viewing your intuition as these spirits 526 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:19,950 of your ancestors then you should know 527 00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:22,559 who your ancestors are right so research 528 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:24,600 her ancestry learn about your family 529 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:26,910 history you know ask your parents ask 530 00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:28,770 your grandparents if they're still 531 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:29,340 around 532 00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:32,490 you might find the origin of why you're 533 00:25:36,650 --> 00:25:34,350 interested in the paranormal like how I 534 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,660 did you might learn that you have this 535 00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:39,360 magical heritage that you didn't know 536 00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:42,030 about and it will enlighten you in so 537 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,230 many ways also meditate you know we're 538 00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:47,760 all in quarantine and this is the 539 00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:49,110 perfect time to do this type of 540 00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:51,900 reflective work set aside just half an 541 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:54,350 hour every day to calm your mind it is 542 00:25:59,030 --> 00:25:56,130 scientifically proven that regular 543 00:26:01,220 --> 00:25:59,040 meditation can alter your brain in a lot 544 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:01,230 of positive ways and it makes you more 545 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:03,570 and pathetic and that's another step 546 00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:06,150 toward becoming more intuitive because 547 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:08,420 being empathetic is the ability to 548 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Intuit how others feel the next thing is 549 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:14,730 don't only use TV shows and movies to 550 00:26:17,299 --> 00:26:16,470 frame your knowledge of what is 551 00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:17,309 supernatural 552 00:26:23,090 --> 00:26:20,940 our ancestors long long long ago had a 553 00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:23,100 far deeper connection with the spirit 554 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:26,550 realm on a daily basis and we live in an 555 00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:29,010 increasingly rational world where we're 556 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,840 not taught to listen to our intuitive 557 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:33,360 mind as much because we don't have 558 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,640 proper education of the spirit realm 559 00:26:41,299 --> 00:26:38,400 society's knowledge of spirits is formed 560 00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:41,309 by entertainment you know movies and TV 561 00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:43,920 shows tend to rely on the sensational 562 00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,020 stuff just because it makes for better 563 00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:48,240 entertainment but it leaves out the 564 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:50,580 subtle things and the subtle things are 565 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:52,580 the stuff that I talked about here today 566 00:26:58,370 --> 00:26:55,290 today we're often asked do you believe 567 00:27:00,560 --> 00:26:58,380 in ghosts but to me it's not a matter of 568 00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:00,570 whether you believe in them or not the 569 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:02,700 question is do you understand what a 570 00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:05,250 ghost is that if it tried to communicate 571 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:07,320 with you would you even know 572 00:27:12,620 --> 00:27:10,260 I believe the ghosts of my ancestors 573 00:27:15,020 --> 00:27:12,630 visited me on the day I met my husband 574 00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:15,030 we communicate with ghosts all the time 575 00:27:18,850 --> 00:27:17,550 but it doesn't look like what you see on 576 00:27:21,460 --> 00:27:18,860 TV 577 00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:21,470 and finally reframe the way you think 578 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:23,540 about the world there's a reason why a 579 00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:25,130 lot of us are losing our minds and 580 00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:27,020 lockdown because we can't see people 581 00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,660 physically and that's because when you 582 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:31,520 spend physical time with friends and 583 00:27:37,390 --> 00:27:35,210 family that is a healing practice that 584 00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:37,400 is a healing ritual we aren't receiving 585 00:27:42,910 --> 00:27:39,620 that same healing at the same level as 586 00:27:44,770 --> 00:27:42,920 we used to over a zoom call so next time 587 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:44,780 you're able to physically see people 588 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:47,570 picture it as a healing ritual pay 589 00:27:54,130 --> 00:27:50,240 attention to how your mind and body 590 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:54,140 feels before and after your energy is 591 00:27:59,650 --> 00:27:57,290 changed and that is literally what magic 592 00:28:02,320 --> 00:27:59,660 is another thing I'd love for you to 593 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:02,330 think about is if you look at your hand 594 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:05,150 you know when you zoom and you zoom far 595 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:07,910 far far far far into your hand down to 596 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:10,010 the atomic level you know the distance 597 00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:13,030 between two atoms in your hand is 598 00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:16,880 astronomical now if you zoom back out to 599 00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:19,790 our world you look at our distance to 600 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:23,480 the Sun and the moon and the two 601 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,090 trillion galaxies and our observable 602 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:28,640 universe we don't often think of 603 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:32,240 ourselves as microscopic but what if we 604 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:36,169 our planet is an atom all the planets 605 00:28:42,909 --> 00:28:38,150 are atoms all the galaxies are just 606 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:42,919 atoms making a giant hand that we cannot 607 00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:46,250 see and we are all connected in a way 608 00:28:52,419 --> 00:28:50,960 that we can't even begin to fathom when 609 00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:52,429 you start to view the world from a 610 00:28:58,030 --> 00:28:54,950 curious and magical point of view the 611 00:29:01,120 --> 00:28:58,040 world becomes more magical it opens you 612 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:01,130 up to even more experiences like I used 613 00:29:05,770 --> 00:29:03,590 to be so frustrated that I'd never seen 614 00:29:08,409 --> 00:29:05,780 an apparition and I used to do all of 615 00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:08,419 these third eye-opening meditations to 616 00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:10,790 try and open up that sense like I was 617 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:15,140 trying so hard and once I stopped trying 618 00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:17,840 and once I understood that the 619 00:29:22,670 --> 00:29:20,059 supernatural was far more complex than 620 00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:22,680 just seeing an apparition 621 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:25,100 that's when I began to have actual 622 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:28,170 supernatural experiences I want you to 623 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:31,530 remember that we are supernatural beings 624 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:35,820 filled with unexplainable things so 625 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:38,850 thanks for joining me my podcast stories 626 00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:40,890 with sapphire is basically a version of 627 00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:42,630 this talk where I'm learning about 628 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:44,790 spirituality and sharing what I've 629 00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:46,890 learned I interview knowledgeable people 630 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:49,080 as well as people who have experienced 631 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:51,330 unexplainable things you can subscribe 632 00:29:56,390 --> 00:29:54,060 on YouTube Apple podcasts Spotify or 633 00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:56,400 wherever you listen to podcasts you can 634 00:30:02,390 --> 00:29:58,740 find all the info you need at stories 635 00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:02,400 with sapphire comm thank you again so